The GOP Defends Torture
On a day when Sen Arlen Spector abandons a flailing GOP former VP Cheney wont shut up about his love of Torture. Who knew ole Dick Cheney was a Masochist? Or Sado-Masochist with the duress he is inflicting on the Republican Party!
Well you know what they say the party that plays well together stays together,, to the bitter end!
Cheney demands a Torture Commission
by Robert M Shum Tuesday, April 28, 2009
The Republicans finally think they’ve found an issue: They’re in favor of torture. Republican House Leader John Boehner channeled the party’s will when he spoke up for the torturers’ cause at a White House meeting with President Obama. But his voice was drowned out (metaphorically) by someone who had previously left the White House for an undisclosed location in suburban Virginia.
Dick Cheney, the avatar of the nonexistent threat of weapons of mass destruction, hastened onto the public stage to blast the President for endangering the national security. Obama’s crime? Releasing memos depicting waterboarding and other techniques borrowed from enemies like the Communist Chinese. It wasn’t Cheney’s first assault on Obama, but it captured singular attention because Cheney plainly was the Bush Administration’s driving force in this wholesale violation of national and international law.
From a Democratic perspective, the emergence of Cheney as the face of the Republican Party is a consummation devoutly to be wished. GOP strategists generally yearn to see Cheney just go away; the last thing they want is for Americans to see the former Vice-President, an antonym for public appeal, become a synonym for their party.
On the merits, Cheney doesn’t even argue half the case—whether torture is wrong in principle, wrong legally, or wrong for American foreign policy. Instead he insists that it worked to some unspecified extent. Secretary of State Clinton pungently understated the obvious when she dismissed him as not “a particularly reliable source.” In fact, last year FBI Director Robert Mueller, a Bush holdover, was asked by an interviewer whether any attacks had been foiled by what Cheney and his acolytes whitewashed as “enhanced interrogation techniques.” Mueller was “reluctant to answer,” but then conceded: “I don’t believe that has been the case.” As early as 2002, a Pentagon study warned that torture would elicit “unreliable information.”
So what can torture’s apologists claim? For a while, their prime example was a plot to crash a plane into the tallest building in downtown Los Angeles. They pointed to information supposedly coerced from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, a top al Qaida operative, who we now know was waterboarded 183 times. It’s a scenario right out of the television show “24”; appropriately it’s also fictional. The plot was derailed in 2002; KSM, as government memos refer to the Sheikh, wasn’t even captured until 2003.
Cheney, seldom daunted by the inconvenient truth, is now demanding the selective declassification of two documents allegedly “proving” the effectiveness of torture—although, of course, he refuses to call it that. (Imagine hoping to be remembered in history as the “waterboarding Vice-President.”) The difficulty, as Bush State Department Counselor Philip Zelikow points out, is that the release of these documents “would only raise questions that would have to be answered with still more disclosures.”
In other words, Cheney hasn’t thought it through—perhaps no surprise from the official who propelled us into the folly of the Iraq War—but in effect he is demanding a Torture Commission to review all the documents and decisions on the dark engine he fired up. That would be the only way to make a definitive judgment on his claims.
The President has resisted the creation of such a commission, to the consternation of many of his own supporters. It’s ironic, to say the least, that Cheney has stumbled into agreement with them by insisting that “the American people [should] have a chance to see what we obtained and what we learned and how good the intelligence was.” But how can they do that without a through and independent inquiry?
I doubt Obama will take Cheney’s advice. The President has sought to navigate a fine line on this issue. Those who disagree with his decision to rule out the prosecution of CIA agents who engaged in torture have a point. Do we really want to validate a defense that pleads: “I was only following the memos”? At least why not prosecute the officials who authorized torture and the lawyers who rationalized it? Leave aside the reality that it would be difficult to convict them; the government would have to prove that the legal advice was intentionally and knowingly flawed (as opposed to merely adhering to the Bush norm of gross incompetence). The President’s real reason for resisting criminal cases—or a commission—is a belief that America can’t afford a wave of recrimination and bitter division about the past when we should be concentrating on the urgent business of saving our future.
Obama’s fine line also seems to me to be finely calculated. I think he recognizes that history, too, has its claims, and that the truth will out over time, as it did with Richard Nixon and Watergate. In releasing the memos, he’s sent a clear message of deterrence—that American operatives in the future can’t rely on legal camouflage to justify torture. Indeed what has been too little noted is how the FBI and the Pentagon refused to participate in the Bush-Cheney reign of torture.
The line Obama has drawn is likely to endure. There’s no guarantee, but there wouldn’t be even if the culprits found themselves in court or under inquisitorial klieg lights. And I doubt any subsequent administration would risk a repeat of this dark chapter in our history.
And that’s where Cheney will be left—to history—unless, that is, he inadvertently aids and abets the creation of a Torture Commission. That would only seal his ultimate disgrace; we might even discover, as some allege, that the real object of waterboarding was to extract false confessions endorsing Cheney’s concocted connections between Saddam Hussein and al Qaida.
In the meantime, as we end the First 100 Days, which have marked not just an historic success for Obama but an ideological and political dead end for the Republicans, maybe the GOP will at last disclaim their former Vice-President. They’re already dumping on George W. Bush for the bailouts and “big spending.” Isn’t the betrayal of our laws, our reputation and our core values a graver offense? But if instead the party of “No” lets itself become the party of Cheney, well, in that case they’ll just keep torturing themselves.
source The Week.com
- ROBERT M. SHRUM has been a senior adviser to the Gore 2000 presidential campaign, the campaign of Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, and the British Labour Party. In addition to being the chief strategist for the 2004 Kerry-Edwards campaign, Shrum has advised thirty winning U.S. Senate campaigns; eight winning campaigns for governor; mayors of New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Philadelphia, and other major cities; and the Democratic Leader of the U.S. House of Representatives. Shrum's writing has appeared in the Los Angeles Times , The New York Times , The New Republic , Slate , and other publications. The author of No Excuses: Concessions of a Serial Campaigner (Simon and Schuster), he is currently a Senior Fellow at New York University's Wagner School of Public Service.
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ReplyDeleteI like your picture here. It brings to my mind Dr. Evil
ReplyDelete(of course) and the greatest villain in the James Bond series Blofeld. Donald Pleasance portrayed this character so well. Donald Pleasance was a great actor.
Today, former Secretary of State Condalessa Rice admitted to "merely conveying DoJ's memos In RE: Torture, Waterboarding to the NSA and the CIA as well as having knowledge of the studies on torture and that justification was being sought to do so.
ReplyDeleteThe idea of the conveyance, and thereby, the furtherance of the scheme is considered "a common plan" in international law and known as "conspiracy" in US law.
Specifically, the US, as a nation, was a signatory to the Geneva Conventions (international treaty with intendent obligations and hence the force of law) which includes a provision prohibiting torture of any kind.
Both houses of the US Congress are planning investigations. You can bet that the political sharks will be looking for fresh prey. Dick has plenty to worry about as well as Rice. They were cheerleaders for the torture policy.
If Mohamud the Terrorist falls into my hands with information that could save more than a few lives, he would be missing his arms and legs,...
ReplyDeleteand thats BEFORE I start the torture.
Nice portrait of the High Pooh Bah himself, Richard Cheeney. You have captured the true essence of this Herman Goering-Henrich Himmler protege as it calls to mind the image of Dr. Strangelove, the all but drooling madman with influence on the powerbrokers with the fingers on the nuclear button. It would be more accurate if you had had Lynn, ole wifey pooh, glaring out from between Dick's legs because that broad has pushed, goaded, and bitched some of these grotesque "solutions" into official Shrub policies that were never scrutinized, let alone skimmed by good ole C- of Skull and Bones (apparently the keepers of Geronimo's skull are not particular where GPA and smarts happen to be concerned).
ReplyDeleteShattering an El Mysterio Myth Regarding Mobile Positioning Systems
Going through material originating with the chief apologist for the misunderstood, convicted pimps and porno makers from Virginia was rather eyeopening. El Mysterio tried to laugh off how Cuadra and Kerekes could be tracked. Tried to suggest even that cellphones could not be triangulated to determine location. I can assure him that the signal from a cellphone can be, and is, used to track suspects.
Cellphones are the most innocent looking location-aware devices on Earth. These devices depend on "knowing" the user's location. Any phone can determine its own location (that is, the user's location) by TRIANGULATING from multiple cell towers, then send that information back to the wireless service provider. This ability makes possible the routing of calls efficiently to subscribers. This ability saves lives. In 1996, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) mandated that cellphone providers phase in location-aware Enhanced 911 (E911) capabilities on most cellphones by 2012 to determine the position of a caller in an emergency to within 300 feet. As an example of this capability, last June, two hikers who wandered off course in Alaska's Denali National Park were found a few days later when rescue workers traced them through their cellphones.
Moreover, newer cellphones are shipping with embedded GPS antennas, giving them location and mapping capabilities that rival embedded navigation systems in automobiles.
I don’t think even Cheney would agree with those tactics Albert.
ReplyDeleteWhat are you trying to do with “Mohamud”, save our nation or just extract vengeance?
Anonymous, why do you attempt to put these things on Lynn? Do you have any evidence that this is so? Please cite something that we can refer to. As to the Skull and Bones reference I think that they are a wacko cult and maybe if their members had a little less influence the tanks would roll into them like they did the Branch Davidians. S & B is much more dangerous than TBD.
Ernie,
ReplyDeleteLynne Cheeney was one time Chair of the National Endowment for the Humanities. Dear Lynne advocated censorship and abolution of funding for certain programs under the NEH umbrella, moreover, Lynne went out of her way to be the female face of the Neo Con movement of which her husband was a guiding light.
Skull and Bones has ties to Bilderberg and the Tri Lateral Commission, outfits that Lynne has spoken at length about. Lynne was hardly a demure wife; she was busy working the room at official and unofficial functions. Lynne is hardly a homemaker. She was busy mixing up Neo Con policy in her kitchen and passing out those goods at those Washington, D.C. cocktail and dinner parties. Lynne has an agenda and she pushed it on CNN's Crossfire, but that was merely the tip of the iceberg. More chilling stuff is to be had at the Heritage Foundation for which she worked on Neo Con policy positions prior to Dick's stint as VP. She's was a power behind the throne.
Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteThank you for your elucidation. I appreciate your response to my query, though you did not provide any references for your comment. I am almost on the same page anyway. Just a bit uncertain as to how deeply interconnected all the 'vast right wing conspiracy' folks really are. They seem to be in disarray currently.
Ernie,
ReplyDeleteLook for Greg Palast's reports on BBC's Newsnight and columns in The Guardian and The Observer. Palast is an American ex-patriot living in England and who frequently returns here to do indepth reports. Another writer who has detailed Lynne's history is David Brock who was once part of the inner circle.